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Post by joeysgreen on Oct 1, 2006 22:42:46 GMT -5
After 287 days since it's been published (Dec. 17, 05) I finally hold my very own copy of the Mader second edition of Reptile Medicine and Surgery! wow, this book is immaculate.. anyone else own this holy bible?
Ian
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Post by kaley on Oct 2, 2006 8:49:49 GMT -5
Nope...but I just looked it up, and might have to add it to my Christmas wish list! I just have to hope that if I can get hold of a copy that I can understand enough of it for it to be useful!!  Kaley |
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Post by joeysgreen on Oct 2, 2006 22:14:01 GMT -5
... well, it is a veterinary text, so it'll be a bit wordy and slow to read for the unexperienced, but you gotta learn somehow Plus it's got lots of great colour pictures so the learning is fun! Ian |
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Post by Shawn(snakebite) on Dec 10, 2006 22:59:02 GMT -5
Ha , sweet . Give us some feedback on this book.I am curious to know how you have been enjoying it and what you have to say about it. I did see this book when it was offered , but have not picked it up yet.I do plan on getting it in the near future though.
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Post by joeysgreen on Dec 30, 2006 7:51:06 GMT -5
Well. I'm about 1/3 done this book and still superbly happy about it. The first 100 pages or so would probably be worthwhile for any reptile owner to have, even for the full book price. The rest so far is probably nothing more than a quick scan-over for most, I caution some pretty graphic dissection pictures. I'm reading everything word for word and over again until I understand every single concept. Who said you can't specialize before becoming a vet eh? Ian |
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Post by kaley on Dec 30, 2006 11:30:06 GMT -5
I took an older edition out of the vet library last year, and the pictures were really interesting...I little gruesome, but interesting...
It was a little depressing seeing all the deformed turtles and tortoises though...
I really do need to get hold of a copy!! Stretch the brain a little!
Kaley
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Post by joeysgreen on Dec 31, 2006 3:05:36 GMT -5
I never did get the old copy, however it was a favorite read on my lunchbreaks back in my early days as a tech Ian |
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Post by alex on Jan 7, 2007 10:28:40 GMT -5
I think the 2nd ed Mader is way more useful than 1st - the first is sort of a big list of references... it's useful for some bits clinically, but I find lit searches way better for treatments. Or harassing people over e-mail
The one I am really excited about is Elliot Jacobson's book on diseases and their pathology in herps. He is pretty much who I want to end up being when I'm done my post secondary career. It's not out yet but will be soon, it just has a semi-impressive price tag associated with it.
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Post by joeysgreen on Jan 7, 2007 12:10:18 GMT -5
Thanks, I'll watch out for it. Jacobson does some impressive work down at the U of FLA and is an idol of mine as well Are you a vet student? Ian |
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Post by alex on Jan 7, 2007 19:13:07 GMT -5
I'm almost done my DVM
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Post by joeysgreen on Jan 8, 2007 7:21:10 GMT -5
sweet, I'm envious. I'm having a hard time wracking up my prevet courses while still supporting a family. I'll be having grey hairs by the time I'm done  Ian |
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Post by alex on Jan 8, 2007 15:19:42 GMT -5
I do have grey hairs already  I didn't take prevet... or even finish all the requirements for admission. It seems to help to make yourself interesting to them. Though they really do like prior post secondary degrees. Anyway, just wait until you get in and the school doesn't see why you ever need to leave and you definately don't have much time to work. |
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Post by joeysgreen on Jan 9, 2007 23:23:18 GMT -5
*gasp* you mean the prereq's arn't written in stone? That's it, I'm applying every year whether I'm done them or not. I really don't think I'd have a problem getting in (with prevet done) as I"m a very well versed ER tech, and am likely the best herpetile tech north of Calgary. I also have references up the wazoo! Now I'm hoping for a miracle as well for early admission What did you do to "make yourself interesting to them"? Thanks Alex, nothing's really changed, but you somehow made my day Ian |
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Post by alex on Jan 10, 2007 19:06:40 GMT -5
I don't really know what I did
I basically told them I never wanted to practice clinical medicine and I had no interest in the common domestic species.
I also picked a fight with most of my interviewers about not bailing out Alberta beef ranchers for BSE but supporting the bailout of cod fishermen. Could be 'cause I dislike Alberta for the most part, but I still stand by what I said.
They seem to like people who are verbally quick on their feet & stand up for themselves, have interests outside of medicine and are odd.
That being said, they have not admitted certain people who I thought would be a shoe in.
Also, the interview I got in from, it was the first day I'd been sober in about a week. I was pretty hungover, tired and grumpy from some other things.
Go figure.
Wait long enough and you'll have access to the Calgary school too and be a little guinea pig for their bizarre program... I enjoy not having to drive around the province for all my classes.
However, the ability to be functional while hungover, tired and grumpy is quite useful at vet school and I suspect will still apply at Calgary.
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Post by joeysgreen on Jan 10, 2007 22:18:25 GMT -5
What other post-secondary education do you have? It's getting the interview that is the hard part in my slanted opinion. In your opinion, do you think I'd be worthwhile visiting the school in saskatoon and chatting with the prof's? If so, what ones are also on the selection committee?
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Post by alex on Jan 11, 2007 21:28:06 GMT -5
I have a BSc in animal biology emphasising comparative physiology.
I have heard getting the interview was the hard part, but I got an interview each time... the first time I was applied I was wait listed, but that was fine with me. I had just wanted to see if I could get in, would've deferred a year as I wanted to finish my BSc because I wasn't sure I wanted to be a vet and I still don't particularly want to be one. I got in the following year when I was done at UBC.
I don't really see what visiting the school and chatting up profs would get you - who is on the selection committee changes from year to year or even through the interview process... and even people who have volunteered at the school for ages haven't gotten in. It's quite odd... plus there's a lot of insane politics at the college and who you chat up could potentially be the arch-nemesis of who is interviewing you.
Really, having strongly defined interests and being quite involved in them seems to be the most beneficial thing I can tell you. A strong academic record is probably good too. Have you applied before?
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Post by kaley on Jan 11, 2007 22:16:32 GMT -5
I don't really see what visiting the school and chatting up profs would get you - who is on the selection committee changes from year to year or even through the interview process... and even people who have volunteered at the school for ages haven't gotten in. My supervisor and various other An Sc faculty take turns on the interview commitees...From what I gather from the coffee room chatter, your marks and reference letters etc will get you an interview, but the best bet for "making it" is to have a personality and have interests outside of just school. I have known SO many "pre-vet kids"with phenomenal marks, whose entire life is school and volunteering walking dogs, etc, etc, but are complete morons in real life and have no idea how to function in a real conversation outside of a library  ...And thus, they can't "pass" the interview! My personal opinion is that it takes so much more than book smarts to succeed at anything, vet school included, that many people fail because they specialze too much and try too hard! You seem like a bright and interesting person Ian, so I don't imagine that you'll have too much trouble once you get an intervew! ;D Just my two cents! Best of luck to you! Kaley |
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Post by joeysgreen on Jan 13, 2007 6:59:35 GMT -5
Thanks Kaley, and I have also heard that getting the interview was based on the paper accredations, and the interview was to make sure you knew what you were getting into. Alex, no I havn't yet applied as I don't have much university under my belt. I went straight to NAIT after highschool and have worked as a tech since grad in 2000. I think your strong BSc standing helped you get your interview where universities generally don't think too highly of college grad's. I"ll be applying anyways to see what'll happen. Hey, I also saw more info on the Jacobson book, it'll be out in March I think... looks fantastic! I gotta hurry and finish this Mader so I can start that one Ian |
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Post by alex on Jan 13, 2007 14:54:55 GMT -5
There's a tech in my year, and I think at least one in every year.... it might help at this point
And they do find reasons to take others... there's at least 3 people in my year who barely did the requirements to get in before being accepted...
I preordered Jacobson... I was getting a bunch of texts from amazon anyway.
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...And thus, they can't "pass" the interview!