here there all you hognose fans

[Ryan Wunsch]

I am hoping I get babies from this male this year....





Ryan

[Kevin]

Those are friggin nice Ryan! Are they legal for the "ordinary" person to own in Sask?...lol

[Ryan Wunsch]

A far as I know they still are, I'm an ordinary person and have and ordinary collection and keep 6 of them.

I mentioned in the one forum that I had heard of someone being turned down to import them into the province, because at that time, apparently there was a set of revised laws being drafted and they were considered for the restricted list.

I will soon be asking for an update and a chance ot see any potential revisions they might be looking at putting in place. If they do end up on the restricted list, current owners should be able to get a grandfather prermit to keep the ones they own till they die. I imagine that if the snakes breed, like i hope mine do - under that situation I'd be expected to export all the babies, preferably in 1 big group like I had to do when I had the zoo permit and we'd have baby boas or pythons.

But right now they aren't on the restricted list which is posted on the Sask Envirnment webpage. Hopefully some of us in Saskatchewan will have babies and anyone who wants to keep one can buy one in province and not have to worry about import permits. Besides me I beleive there are 2 people trying their hoggies this year.

Ryan

[Ryan Wunsch]

I should clarify that they are protected from collecting or harrassing.

C.B babies are legal to keep, same as bullsnakes and c.b. are available across Canada for sale.

In the other thread I had said that I don't think that restricting people from keeping c.b is going to protect wild ones any more than they currently are. They are protected from collecting by law, and anyone not worried about breaking that law, wouldn't worry about keeping them anyways if they were restricted.

Also, If all of us kept every single one we have ever found in the wild, there might be 1 less hognose snake in the wild today! Not like we can go catch them in bucketloads or anything. I think there is a good argument for not putting them on a restricted list.

Ryan

[Kevin]

Thanks for the info Ryan. I wonder if CBB ones are legal in Manitoba, I guess I'll have to do some reasearch.

[Ryan Wunsch]

You can only keep cbb ones in Manitoba with a permit. Even when we go to Manitoba to do educational displays, to bring hognose snakes (or common snapping turtles) we'd have to supply and comply with the following :

1) Name, address and telephone number of applicant.

2) Name, address, telephone number and fax number of owner, if
different from applicant.

3) Common name and scientific name of specimens.

4) Age, sex and permanent identification of each specimen, e.g., ear
tags, tattoos, leg bands, microchip implants.

5) Written certification from a licensed veterinarian that the animals
are free from diseases or parasites that are (a) not normal for that species
or type of wildlife, both in terms of load or species, or (b) may be
communicable to other wildlife or humans, based on examination or tests
conducted by the veterinarian within the last thirty (30) days utilizing
commonly acceptable methods, and identifying in the certification the
examined specimens by their numbered permanent identification.

6) Briefly describe educational program and the nature of the materials
or information and how presentation or distribution will be made to viewers.

7) Location where animals will be held while in Manitoba, type of
facility, proposed import date, name of person or agency transporting, form
of transport and proposed export date. If animals will not be held in a
secure facility, explain measures that will be utilized to prevent escape.

8) The location, that is, name and address, where you will be staying
while in Manitoba, and a telephone number where it would be normal to expect
to contact you while in Manitoba.
Ryan

[Ryan Wunsch]

I guess I should clarify, your laws (At least that is how I interpereted www.carcnet.ca/english/legal/legalMB.html) only seem to restrict Western Hognose Snake (Heterodon nasicus) which would include Dusty's and Plains

Plains hognose snakes (H n. nasicus)
Dusty hognose (H. n. gloydi)

But you should be able to legally keep these without a permit (I think)

Mexican hognoses ( H. kennerlyi)
Eastern hognose (H. platirhinos)
and Sourtherns (H. simus)

Ryan