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Post by vanderkm on Mar 31, 2006 18:07:17 GMT -5
Though we are just getting everyone conditioned to breed, thought I would post a few pics of some of the breeding pairs that are lined up Amel motley male (sunglow) with a butter female Creamsicle male with hypo female to develop cinnamons Other creamsicle male with normal female blizzard male with ghost female for quad hets and possible amel triple hets caramel male with hypo (coral) snow female to prove his het hypo and amel and a young creamsicle het caramel will get a chance with this butter female to produce buttercreams If he is not up to the job, I will likely give this young rootbeer a chance - he has grown very well and has great color thanks for looking, mary v.
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Post by minnow on Mar 31, 2006 18:19:22 GMT -5
They look awesome Mary! I especially like that blizzard. Good Luck with them! Carol
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Post by Ryan Wunsch on Mar 31, 2006 18:58:41 GMT -5
Wow!
Of course I like your creamsicle, but that caramel is one of my new favorites. What influence will that have on any amel or hypo babies down the road that are also caramel? I'm assuming caramel is recessive.
How many are you planning to hold back. The only thing bad about having such a large diversity of really nice genetics like you do, is having (or wanting) to hold so many back as future breeders.
Great post, very nice pictures good luck with all those this year
Ryan
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Post by Winnipeg Reptiles on Mar 31, 2006 20:41:47 GMT -5
Nice corns. you should have an awesome variety of babies out of that group. Peace
Casey
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Post by Shawn(snakebite) on Mar 31, 2006 22:11:19 GMT -5
Great piks!!!! Yep your hypo snow looks just like mine, very nice.You should have some sweet offspring this year. Look forward to seeing them when they hatch and you get piks.Very clean and neat your snakes environment....nice to see!!!Best of luck with your projects , I look forward to chattin with ya one day!
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Post by vanderkm on Apr 1, 2006 15:50:08 GMT -5
Thanks everyone - I really do enjoy the corns and creamsicles.
Ryan - yeah - those creamsicles that I got from you are some of the very best I have ever seen - really excellent snakes and a great foundation. The caramel is the gene that creates butter corns - when homozyogous for caramel but normal on the amel and hypo genes - you get a caramel like this guy. When homozygous for caramel and amel - you get a butter. When homozygous for caramel and hypo A you get ambers - which are very pretty - I really want one of those!! I love the caramel in combination with motley - really nice effect from the motley pattern.
I am keeping babies back from all the breedings - just less from the blizzard to ghost - that one is mostly to determine whether his high yellow is related to him being homozygous for anery A as well as anery B. Whether I keep any will depend on what comes out of it. I also want to know if the ghost is het amel - she could be, but would like to confirm it.
I agree - real challenge when you breed - I want to keep so many back, but I am getting better at selecting babies. I will also be selling some of my breeders every year to allow me to replace them with new generations - though some of them I have become quite attached to.
Shawn - I think we met at the last Red Deer show - I believe you dropped your card off with me at my table there. Look forward to chatting more about corns and breeding though,
mary v.
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Post by Ryan Wunsch on Apr 1, 2006 23:41:23 GMT -5
Wow, I've been looking up some of the colors you mentioned and it has me seriously thinking about picking up a cornsnake project or two.
I sure am glad you got those creamsicles, the second one you have pictured is very nice. You are doing really great things with them, which makes the hassle we had getting those home, more worth it.
Time for another story!!!
We bought 62 snakes from Third Eye Herpetoculture. Shipping day was September 11. I had a meeting at work that day, and then had planned to go in from Medicine Hat to Calgary to get my shipment. Got to the meeting, and everyone was watching the big screen T.V. They filled my group in on what happened, and we thought we were watching a re-run when the second plain hit the towers. Everyone was freaking, and I'm like "uh, its just a re-run" but then we realized the second towere had just been hit on live T.V. So I phoned Sheila at home, who told me that "the 3rd world war was starting" and got her to phone Tim (Spuckler I think) to tell him not to ship the snakes. He took the snakes to the airport really early, and they actually had to be taken off the plain they were loaded on when all fo the flights were cancelled for the day. He was able to go get them from his local airport, 15 minutes difference they would have been landed at their nearest aiport and he would have had trouble. He actually had no hassle picking up the large box of reptiles, he said everyone at the airport was just in a state of shock and numb.
I can't remember when he was able to actually book the shipment again, but I had a lot of hassle when we finally did get them. It must have been during some hunting season though I think.... I had to go to customs to get them and pay my duty on them. This was at Calgary, and I'm sure they had a lot of snakes from the U.S come in, but the lady i got really hated snakes and could not figure out why anyone would want to buy so many. I was there explaining myself for 90 minutes while she tried to find a code number for live snakes. Meanwhile, U.S rich hunter types were picking up their guns in like 2 minutes. This was right after 911. So loudly, after about an hour of this B.S, I said to the group "excuse me, what are you clearing there" and they all said "our guns" to which I said "I should have told them I was getting guns I guess, I've been here for over an hour".....
I also remember more hassle regarding a blood red corn for you, which escaped and did not make it to the sale (possibly in the hotel room in Red Deer....shhhhh)
I see on Reptiles Canada that the Mexican Pines we got at the same time have gone on to produce Francis some really nice babies also. We got black pines, southern pines, lots of killer morphs of corns (some ghosts that were super nice).....
But of all the snakes in that very memorable shipment, it was those creamsicles that were my favorite. I'm very happy they are in such capable hands, and now in Saskatchewan lending their genetics to such fabulous projects.
Ryan
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Post by vanderkm on Apr 4, 2006 12:09:34 GMT -5
Great story Ryan - I had almost forgotten about that bloodred male - would love to have him now!!
Cornsnake genetics are great fun to work with - such a variety of genes out there and so many combinations. They are also just such nice, easy snakes! Let me know if there are any of the clutches you are interested in - would always make you a really good deal - even if you would be competition!!
mary v.
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