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Post by Ryan on Mar 22, 2006 9:03:23 GMT -5
Figured I'd get this going with some pics of my cage that I built for my Indigo a while back. Seeing that Indigos are known to use Gopher Tortoise burrows in the wild I wanted to build a cage that utilised 'underground' hides like a tortoise burrow so I made a cage with a false bottom with access to 2 sterlites that slide in underneath. This adds another level to the cage which provides a secure hide area at each end. The total dimensions of this cage are 5ft L X 2ft D X 3ft H, if I were to build it over there are some things I would have changed like the height. Although she does climb the branches that are now in there it's harder to control temps. because of the height and it's not really needed. I plan on eventually building most of my cages using modified versions of this design. Any comments and feedback welcome!!
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Post by vanderkm on Mar 22, 2006 12:22:18 GMT -5
I really like the design with hide boxes underneath the main chamber - have seen similar for kingsnakes and thought it was a great idea. How are you heating this cage? Would love to see some updated pics with the indigo in it,
mary v.
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Post by Ryan on Mar 22, 2006 13:26:29 GMT -5
I'm actually heating in two ways, first is a basking light at one end since Indigos are known to prefer this and second I have heat tape under the Sterlite on the one end, controlled by a dimmer of course. Tough to say which she prefers since she's usually out more during the day when I'm not at home but I have caught her basking many times.
I'm just trying to get things set up in the new house and then I'll see about getting some pics of her in the cage for you Mary.
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Post by joeysgreen on Mar 24, 2006 0:48:11 GMT -5
That's an incredible cage for an awesome species. A basic design that should work well. Where did you get your indigo? Was it hard to bring it into Canada?
Ian
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Post by Ryan on Mar 24, 2006 11:38:09 GMT -5
Actually my Indigo is born and bred in Canada, I purchased her from a breeder back east.
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Post by ekkieangel on Mar 24, 2006 12:29:42 GMT -5
I read somewhere that they are an endangered species but I thought it was illegal to keep an endangered species unless you were breeding it or whatever. I admit I am a bit fuzzy on it all. Care to elaborate?
Either way I saw the pics and its a gorgeous snake. How much did it cost (if you don't mind me being nosy lol)?
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Post by Ryan on Mar 24, 2006 16:15:38 GMT -5
Not sure where you read that but I don't know of any such law regarding Indigos in Canada, it is true they are very endangered in their native range in the Southeastern US and they are federally protected there. As far as I know Canada has no laws at all regarding the keeping of Indigos apart from any issues dealing with importation, I know the US has a permit system set-up for Indigos but I don't know much about that process.
If you're looking at getting an Indigo you can expect to pay anywhere between $800-1200+ depending on gender and age of the snake, mine is a female and she was purchased at 2 yrs of age so let's just say she was at the higher end of that range, lol.
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Post by Ryan Wunsch on Mar 24, 2006 19:34:38 GMT -5
Actually, Indigos are not endangered species, according to CITES. The United States would have to ask for them to be added, and I do not beleive they ever have (but probably should)
In the U.S there are state laws that vary from state to state prohibiting their travel across state lines, or in some cases prohitting the keeping of them all together.
CITES appendix 1 snakes, like dumerils boas, might be what you are thinking about. In order to import them into canada, you have to be doing it for research, zoological purposes, or be part of an endangered species program and you have to get paperwork from Canada as well as the country they are coming from before you can import them.
Also, a law that is largely ignored, but the Wapprita act in Canada says that you need to have import and export permits for inter-provincial trade also, when dealing with CITES 1 like dumerils boas.
But Indigo snakes can go in and out of the country as easy as corn snakes.
I'm positive that Canada has no special law regarding indigo snakes. When we had the zoo open, there was a grant available for breeding endangered species, and Indigos would have fit the criteria for that grant, but that was just a grant, and not law.
Ryan
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Post by ekkieangel on Mar 25, 2006 20:36:13 GMT -5
Cool I was just curious. Your indigo is absolutely gorgeous and I can imagine how much she cost. I looked and saw average prices....that would make a few months of resnt disappear lol. Maybe someday...I HOPE!
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Post by Ryan on Mar 26, 2006 0:38:17 GMT -5
Yeah they will take a big bite out of your bank account that's for sure but well worth it in my opinion!! I think they are the most beautiful snakes, almost always over 6ft long as thick as your forearm and jet black but are calm as can be while being handled.
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Post by snakewhisperer on Apr 8, 2006 12:34:40 GMT -5
That is an awesome cage and an incredible snake. I would love to get one when I save up enough pop cans. I just love black snakes and white ones and red ones and.... wait a minutue ...I like them all!
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